Tuesday, November 29, 2016

Ratings, ratings go away, come again another day


If you play on television, you're a 7.0.  Past that you're just gonna have to wait.

As many of you are aware, the Monday after Thanksgiving is a very popular day for USTA year end ratings to come out.  While it isn’t always the case, it did seem that the USTA had initially targeted Monday (yesterday) as the target date.  I am know hearing and reading that the new target release date is this Thursday, although next week is a possibility.  Personally, I don’t care, but it does remind me of several years ago (2009?) when the USTA did its last massive reorganization bump.  For those of you who weren’t around or didn’t notice, in the 3.5/4.0/4.5 categories the bump up percentages ranged from about 38% to about 25% that year compared with a more normal range of high single digits to low double digits.   I neither seen nor heard any speculation at this point that another mass bump is coming but it does seem curious. 

As for the fall playoff predictions, ehh.

Since there was approximately zero interest in the last fall post about flight play finish and who would make the playoffs, I decided to save my energy and pass on predictions.  I’ll dutifully report the final results but past that no one seems to care.

Good luck to all the combatants this weekend.


And congrats to Murray on his world #1 ranking.



57 comments:

  1. We want predictions....

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    1. Why don't you start us off since you are the only one who seems to care enough to post

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    2. I would, but I am still fairly new and don't know all of the teams, nor who all qualified.

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    3. You must be Raja. Word is your dream lineup is:

      1S Raja Kanchi
      2S Raja Kanchi
      1D Kanchi/Kanchi
      2D Kanchi/Kanchi
      3D Kanchi/Kanchi

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  2. Lineup tweaked for fall
    1S Raja Kanchi
    1D Kanchi/Kanchi
    2D Kanchi/Kanchi
    3D Kanchi/Kanchi
    4D Kanchi/Kanchi

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  3. Dominance! That's unfair!

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    1. 1S Raja Kanchi
      1D Kanchi/Kanchi
      2D Kanchi/Kanchi
      3D Default
      4D Default
      If you really knew him it would be arrogant so only three lines would be required.

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  4. Rain projected for Saturday so fall playoffs must be cancelled

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  5. 8 game pro sets to be played outdoors Friday evening, and under cover at Lifetime and Brookhaven Saturday / Sunday.

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  6. USTA.com has updated rankings. Several Dallas players moved up a level

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  7. tankers survived for another year

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  8. Do I win an award for the first successful appeal? They must have figured no one wanted a 67 year old bump up to 4.5

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  9. People above 60 apparently have 0.10 rating margin where they can appeal, whereas others have 0.05

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  10. Where are the ratings?

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    1. Stop being lazy. Google is your friend

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    2. If you can get signed up for a league you should be able to find the ratings.

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  11. NTRP Search box on league page on tennislink

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  12. Some epic tankers this fall. Let's just flunk 8th grade repeatedly. So we can be bigger than all those 12 year olds.

    Time to move on to high school, guys.

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    1. I worked hard to flunk 8th grade again. Give me some credit!

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  13. Who are the epic tankers? Such a teaser.

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    1. Look at the Kanchi team. Kommineni, Kanchi
      and Rivera have a case of fall tankitis.

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    2. ..also the Sisk and Hurst Mayhem teams. Lots of blatant tankers on all 3. If the teams combine players they will undoubtedly win the 2017 4.0 national championship. If they don't, whichever team emerges from the Texas section wins.

      Whomever is in charge of policing NTRP rating integrity has failed miserably.

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    3. Lucky for Kanchi, he had a few players willing to play legit tennis and carry the team to the playoffs. In spite of a handful of tankers racking up L's.

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    4. Those guys carrying the water are being used like cheap whores. Kanchi won't care about them next spring when he is running over the rest of Dallas.

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    5. Like, literally running over them? Yeah that'd be rough. He's not a small dude.

      Well have fun in the little leagues. Ten weeks of beating hackers 1 and 1. Snore.

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  14. -Tiny Le back to 4.0
    -Alan "i don't tank or instruct others to tank" still at 4.0 Impressive for a teaching pro
    - And the ATF Mike "I can't compete with the 5.0's" Kelly

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    1. Kelly try get to 4.0 but Todd change his rating

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    2. 3:53 is Zacry

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    3. I know how to manipulate the system and will see you guys at 3.5 next year. I should be suspended for my antics and playing people who were not even in the lineup many times but I am smarter than they give me credit for.
      Tony Le

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  15. Rivera 4.5...he did not tank. Great guy and didn't deserve the above criticism.

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    1. Look at his fall results.

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    2. yep .. blatantly tanked in the fall, losing 1 & 1 to a 3.5 player.

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    3. He a nice man he just struggle in cold weather

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    4. Jus like Zacry and Kelley.

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    5. Rivera did not tank? You're joking right? He wins an Open tourney earlier this year but in the fall he and Kanchi lose at D4 multiple times to hacks. He is still out of level with a 4.5 rating.

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  16. These ratings are completely worthless. In my opinion, having played USTA 4.0 league recently, atleast half the 4.0 players are out of level. There seems to be around 25% that should be 4.5 and around 25% that should be playing 3.5.
    And I would say most of the blame goes to the USTA's rating structure. I believe most out of level players are not really manipulating matches. I feel most of my opponents have been legit. However, there are those, maybe 10% or so, that manipulate their scores. Therefore it seems the method of calculating ratings is really the big issue not so much the individuals.

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    1. well when the Top 10% of tankers tank matches against the bottom 10% you get this wide ocean of level of play, where you have 4.5 level down to 3.5 level at 4.0 when the tankers want a stupid towel to cover their ego

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    2. Exactly. In Dallas there are lots of 4.5 quality players dumping matches to 3.5 / 4.0 players. The result is rating inflation to the recipients of the tank jobs and then to their subsequent opponents. It's a complete mess, but it's been going on so long here, and on such a large scale, that the blame needs to shift from the tankers to the system that continues to allow it.

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    3. Well said.
      What I find frustrating is that it really would not be too difficult for USTA to improve the algorithm to detect systematic tanking. Outliers are not difficult to discover, especially given the small number of variables.

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  17. Kanchi & Co definitely rule the fall. They take the fall crown and the fall tanking crown.

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  18. Roussow lost a few 4.5s on his team that were bumped up to 5.0. Fortunately he has over 20 other guys left. Didn't look like many 4.5 teams would be altered much by new rankings.

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  19. The computer finally caught up to Garland/Sisk and McKinney/Kanchi sandbaggers. Garland lost 11 players and McKinney lost 7. It's about time they play where they belong!!!!

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  20. Kanchi and Le best 4.0's in Dallas. Pat Tetrude also up and coming. That right there would be a solid foundation to start a 4.0 dynasty this spring. Add Alan Abbruzezezez and they would dominate.

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  21. 4.0 's in Dallas ranking:
    1. Le
    2. Kanchi
    3. Teterud
    4. Alan A.
    5. Rajiv

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    1. Rajiv is better than all of those guys. Kanchi is probably weakest.

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    2. Zacry beat all those guys

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    1. funny 11:38 is Zacry posting but no, I would not put him in front any of those guys. Especially in the summer.

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    2. Not sure I wouldn't have Raja first, then Le then TET. 4 and 5 a toss up.

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  23. Teterud is on my 4.0 team we are putting together and I would say he is easily two or three. Although he lost to Valdemort 0 and 1 TET has the prowess of a lion, the strength of Superman and the speed of a gazelle.

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  24. Kanchi's tanker found their game again!

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  25. Congratulations Brookhaven/Harlee for taking the Fall 4.5 crown, and McKinney/Kanchi for taking the Fall 4.5 Juniors crown

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    1. Ranchi rules the fall!

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    2. Kanchi will make it to nationals next year. He told me that himself.

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  26. What happened in the 5.0 playoffs?

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    1. It was canceled, not enough courts available.

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  27. It was played. The lakes won vs JCC

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