Sunday, January 31, 2010

Off to Abilene

So I know the draw will come out tomorrow and I will update when I can but most likely I will not be near a computer tomorrow sooooo I thought I would give my initial thoughts on the tourney. I am going to try and get out to more tourneys most likely visiting towns I have friends and family in like Abilene. I am also looking for a change of pace from league play so I am looking forward to this first MZ tourney.

3.5
I wish I knew some of these names but the only one I know is my ride out there so go #4 seed. I have played only a set against David (Brad) but he is tough and has a good serve that should help him do well this weekend.

4.0
I was feeling really good about my chances and then everyone signed up but I am glad the draw is looking pretty solid now. My early favorites would be Oleg, Gerardo and Scott Russell.com Dark horses like Schick, Hutchison and Kraemer could contend as well. And I am sure there are some floaters out there from West Texas that will upset some seeds. Early odds have Lucky Thunder dominating consolation. #1 seed from Austin looks pretty strong as well.

4.0 Doubles
#3 seed most likely is a lock to win this right? Actually when I first saw the names I liked Tims/Parkinson to do damage. I see Scott Russell.com picked up Mr. Jones which is a good combo but a little streaky. I don’t know the Aledo #4 seed and Brian Dennis and partner will be tough as well. Glad to see such a big draw though, get ready for the pain guys.

4.5
I small group and Paulie T got seeded, come on this on par with me being seeded right? Just kidding Paul, I will put a poll though just to gauge the audience. I think this will come down to Griggs v. Leach I hope they are on opposite sides of the draw. I like Leach to win this though.

4.5 Doubles
Leach might just pull the double title here (no pressure Chris) but they are seeded #1 and playing a lot of recent bumpups here but some good ones. Rivas/Hicks and Bassett/Wood could be upset specials.

See ya'll out there, I just saw the forecast has been cleared of rain and highs in the mid 60s all weekend, should be some great tennis.

125 comments:

  1. Tims/Parkinson should be favored to win 4.0 dubs, Tims played in the 4.0 masters last year. Vega/Wilcox are pretty good to. If Jones/Russell get hot, they will be tough to beat. Oleg and Zaheem should make it to the 4.0 singles final.

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  2. Thanks for the vote of confidence Cary, but I havent been able to beat Griggs in the previous two attempts. Hopefully I can have another shot at him (third times the charm, right?).

    See you in Abilene.

    Leach

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  3. Mario Gloria is not seeded in 4.5 singles, but he is my darkhorse to win the event, even without seeing the draw. He extended Kern deep into the third set at Abilene in '08 before losing. Good all court player

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  4. Kevin Robinson has had some great results in the past as well. Who can beat him, since Tim Green is not in the draw?

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  5. Griggs, Leach & Gloria to name three

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  6. LOL Cary!!!! That is not an easy choice on the poll. Greatness!

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  7. Kevin Robinson is heavy favorite guys. Sorry. Leach and Gloria have not had good results lately (sorry Chris). Griggs has a good shot but I would expect Kevin to be in the finals for sure.

    Wish I was playing but my tournament days are over.

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  8. Say it isn't so Coredawg. You just need to recharge your battery. And like Brett Farve you will be ready for the Seniors League in a couple of years.

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  9. KRob, Gloria, Griggs

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  10. Megert sucks, but he has himself a new coach. His name is Larry Lipsie. It's either that, or they are gay lovers.

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  11. There has been some discussion about there being smaller participation in tourneys because of the economy, unhappiness with the USTA, increased entry fees, etc., but I am impressed by the combined number of entries in the events scheduled next weekend.

    I am particularly amazed at the large number of people playing the Brookhaven Indoor Doubles, since you are only guaranteed one match, presumably due to the limited number of courts.

    While some players may be turned off by tournament play, it seems to be flourishing despite the ineptness of the USTA at the national and local levels.

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  12. 2 reasons IMO for larger local play.

    1. The Brookhaven Tourney is starting after 5 pm on Friday. This is probably the number 1 reason that the turnout is so high. Other tourney officials have never been able to figure that one out. but its a BIG DUH!!! No one has to take off from work.

    2. People are foregoing the far away tourneys in exchange for the local tourneys.

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  13. 195 Players playing in Brookhaven with several playing mixed and regular, so they should really be counted twice.

    WOW! Big turnout!

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  14. Another reason is that other than the Senior League, there is no league play going on, which could prevent some people from entering.

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  15. 260 entries at Brookhaven last year, so that is a big drop-off. Also, $31 per player for only one guaranteed match. That's a lot of scratch, even if you get a t-shirt or some other trinket.

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  16. Sorry for that. I meant major zone days. I don't consider signing up for doubles really playing either. I can't take the financial sacrifice of taking two days off work to drive 3-5 hours to play a tournament. Local tournaments I can play doubles because they play in the afternoon/evenings, so I don't miss any work.

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  17. Hey 10:03 AM: Chill out and quit being so sensitive. Nobody is criticizing you for playing a tournament. I hope you have a good weekend, and maybe somebody will knock that big chip off your shoulder.

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  18. Doubles usually start Friday evening at major zones. So you don't have to leave until lunch time usually. Saves you on a hotel room and you usually only have to miss a half day of work.

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  19. it will be interesting to see how successful these 50 point tourneys that the Texas Section is promoting will be. One set matches and round robin play with short intervals between matches. $19 entry fee. For some reason, most of these events are in Belton??

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  20. With the small number of 4.5 entries, most first round matches won't start until Sat. at Abilene.

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  21. If you can't take a half day off to play a tennis tourny you should be playing league.

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  22. Yeah, a nightime league

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  23. Work is over-rated.

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  24. i'd rather work than play mixed doubles

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  25. That's because you can't land any hot chics to play with you geek. Keep working so I can play tennis.

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  26. Those 50-point tourneys will not work. They started those last year and nobody wanted one. I think this year there are only two that are having them. Another good concept that only works in theory. People travel for the points and to play real matches, you get neither in those tourneys.

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  27. Brookhaven draw is out. Corey scores the #1 seed. I'm starting to see a trend here. Dallas blog admin. are getting all the seeds. First Carey, and now Corey. Hmmmm?

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  28. I just want to go on record and say that my partner and I are completely undeserving of the #1 seed in the Brookhaven tournament. We have never played a tournament before and will be unlikely to get out of the first round. I figured I would put it out there before the anons started.

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  29. there are a few west texas players out there that may make things interesting

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  30. Looks like the same crew of people from San Angelo are there. None of them are all that great.

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  31. so what do you guys think about the 4.0 and 4.5 draws for Brookhaven?

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  32. Have prolly played dubs against almost everyone in the 4.5 draw, Noel and Phelps will be tough, but am rooting for E Hill to make it out of the top half(Is right, Am a Lifetimer Fools, lol), Jay J is a beast though, will be tough.

    And yes, have to go with Kemp and Nguyen to make to out the bottom. Kemp is Fire when he is on.


    Dante

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  33. Thanks Dante but you are giving us too much credit. You waxed us in the last Brookhaven final and I played with a much stronger partner then. I did think it was funny that I knew every single team in the draw but one, which happens to be the team we drew first round.

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  34. Please tell me that the blog has not come down to talking about "mixed doubles"... that is about as worthless as it gets!

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  35. Griggs and Gloria first round match up. And then same day next round against Leach. Damn Griggs....who did you piss off? However, I don't see it to be a problem for you....you can run all day.

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  36. Brookhaven predictions;

    3.5 winners #1 seeds Baker/Scheider

    4.0 winners Lutes/Reiman

    4.5 winners Kemp/Nguyen

    Epic fail; anyone from Lifetime tennis.

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  37. Corey - HOW DARE YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH!!!! Damn u to hell.

    Let me be the 2nd to say then:

    I just want to go on record and say that Corey's partner and Corey are completely undeserving of the #1 seed in the Brookhaven tournament. They have never played a tournament before and will be unlikely to get out of the first round.

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  38. I heard from a guy that knows a guy that said Kemp/Nguyen were going to skip Brookhaven, and play the Tbar challenger instead.

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  39. anon Feb 3 @11:50 am doesnt know much about 3.5. other picks are good.

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  40. the blog is bumming me out!!!

    Where is the trash talk??

    Where is the hype??

    Where are all the anons???

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  41. let's talk Brookhaven draws.

    Anything intersting??

    3.5
    4.0
    4.5

    ??

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  42. Dallas League Tennis Blog

    Born: 8-31-2007
    Died: 2-4-2010

    RIP

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  43. This is the usual dead time for the blog. Don't worry. As soon as the flights come out we will have to hear about how all the top 4.5 teams are in one flight and how Lifetime sucks.

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  44. There's no 3.5 ringers to bitch about = The blog is dead.

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  45. This spring Brookhaven is going to have some very strong teams in the 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5 divisions.

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  46. What ringers have Somabut, Sisk picked up? LTF pick anybody up?? Looks like the JCC is building up. Any sleeper teams out there?

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  47. I'll go with Gloria in 4.5 singles and Fowlkes and Wasmer in doubles. Surprised not to see more of the Abilene guys playing in the tournament.

    Pretty nice that most people do not have to play until Saturday. Except of course for Leach who is paying for the many people he has wronged in his life by being in the toughest section and having to play on Friday. Maybe in the future he will be nicer to people. {sarcasm for those who don't know him}

    Good luck to all that are making the trip.

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  48. Kern,

    I'll try to be nicer if you try to be smarter.

    - Leach

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  49. BROOKHAVEN-

    3.5 I like Moghe/Morriswala to win it but my darkhorse is Kirk/Shields.

    4.0 I like Morrison/Vassberg to win it but dark horse is Shanks/Bliss.

    4.5 I like Lazzara/Renwick to win it and dark horse is Benjamin/Whittington.

    The Swamie

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  50. Tony Monk is the best 3.5 playing. He and Big Bird did well in Tri-level. It will be tough for Kirk/Shields to get out of round one.

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  51. Kern get smarter? He is already borderline genius, certainly smart enough not to waste time and money going to Abilene.

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  52. "Tony Monk is the best 3.5 playing". That's like being the best car made by Toyota.

    Come on guys, we can do better than this.

    We need some fearless mixed doubles predictions to liven this blog up. I'll get the ball rolling. The unseeded team of Kelly/Lopez wins the 4.5 mixed. How about the 4.0 and 3.5?

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  53. 3.5 BROOKHAVEN INDOOR
    Monk & Kaiser are easily the best team in the top half of the draw. They'll kill Schneider/Baker the #1 seeds.

    In the bottom half, Moghe & Morriswala are the best team but they'll have a tough semi-final match against Kotlarek & Pierce.

    In the finals, it is all BIg Bird & Monk, straight sets.

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  54. Monk is playing tennis now that his TV show has been cancelled.

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  55. This Monk guy better be REALLY good if he is going to carry Bill Kaiser! Dont count out Bob Bender and his partner... oh that's right I forgot now that Bender is a 3.5 all of the automatic loses start rolling in!

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  56. You never know what Bender might have up his sleeve. Is he trying 100%, or something less. He's one step of his peers. While they are zigging, he's zagging.

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  57. What? No love for the Great Eddie Hill? Either he cant get a win at 4.5 or is partner is not very good. This blog is kind of boreing without all of the self promoters. Where are you guys?

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  58. GEH no longer needs to self promote. He backed up his boasts with results. It aint bragging if you've done it.

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  59. Don't be suckered in by CoreDawg's bad-mouthing of his chances in the 4.5 doubles at Brookhaven. People do this in sports all the time. Speak highly of your opponent and downplay your own talents. Trust me, CoreDawg/Phelps will be a tough out for any opponent. I would not want to play them. Of course, I am a mediocre 4.0 player.

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  60. It's hard to self promote when you lose first round. You will hear from Eddie again next year when he is a 4.0 again.

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  61. I guess Big Bird was too heavy for the great Monk.

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  62. It is really hard to lose a 3.5 match with Monk for your partner. The BigTurd must have played like crap.

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  63. I am not a Lifetimer but I did see a good part of the match which lasted over 2 hours. If Big Turd is the tall goofy guy, he did not play like crap and would say that he did a lot of the heavy lifting on his side. None of the guys on that court played like crap. Just a bunch of momentum shifting. You can't call 3 sets with the 3rd set 7-5 a bad match. Michael Kirk is Brookhaven's best secret. I would not be surprised to see them take the whole thing.

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  64. Kaiser didn't play like crap, he and his partner just choked.

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  65. How did Bill Toney lose to Bob Bender?? WTF???

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  66. I have an imposter? Are you gonna make me register??
    Leach

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  67. Bender paid Toney $500 cash to tank the match. And I SAW Bender make the payment.

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  68. Good luck in the finals Capatain Bender.

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  69. Bender is getting himself ready for Tri Level Sectionals. He realized after City that he will need to carry the load at 3.5.

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  70. lets have more trilevel talk. dallas has a great draw. two joke teams college station and southeast. will san antonio be any good? looks like dallas and houston in the finals to me. i say dallas beats college station 3-0, southeast 3-0 and san antonio 2-1

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  71. Man, I'm good! Both of my 4.5 picks lost in their first matches. Impressive.

    On the trilevel front, I'm not sure Dallas will lose a single line in their pool (or maybe the whole tournament) but don't look at my recent record.

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  72. Dallas doesn't have it as easy as you think at Tri Levels. SE matches up really well with Dallas in the 4.5/4.0 lines. Only thing Dallas can expect is a long ride home wonering what hit them in Houston. It could be a Hurricane.

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  73. So I will recap Abilene and such later but here is a tourney that has a deadline coming up on Tuesday and it will be a weekday tourney. Interesting.

    This is a tournament that many of you do not know about as it is not shown in the USTA book for 2010 as it was approved after the book went to press. It is totally different in that it will be played during the week and after 5 pm, played on Monday the 15th through Thursday the 18th. They are attempting to see if this will make it and been told very popular in other parts of the country.

    Go to tournament #809704010. It going to be played at the Village and called Twlight Tennis and has all levels. Cut off is the 7th of February so need to get moving. I think it is going to be a real change and anxious to see just how it comes about. I hope to see you there.

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  74. Damn, 6:01...Dallas lose to SE are you crazy? But, after reading your post I did a lil research and just noticed that SE has beaten us at trilev the last 2 years. I still say no way this years team loses

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  75. Has Dallas ever won the Tri Levels event before? I still put Dallas 2nd behind Houston to win the Sectionals event. Houstons team has a little more depth in the 4.5/4.0 lines.

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  76. Vernon from SETX is as good as anyone on the Dallas roster

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  77. Unless the referee has changed his mind without informing me those twilight tournaments will be held at Fair Oaks. I doubt Village has the court space anyway.

    My two finalists were right for Abilene also. Not to mention my prediction for my first-round exit in Brookhaven. And I picked the Saints. I missed my opportunity to go to Vegas this weekend.

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  78. Sorry Coredawg, someone forwarded the info to me on the tourney and I did see Fair Oaks on the tourney home page. Looks like a small tourney so far. I would love to play but i think Abilene is closer for me. :)

    Abilene was a well run tourney, I think since the draws were smaller everything was on time. Also most of the matches were pretty close after the mass rating bumps. This was my first MZ and I have to say I am looking forward to playing another one, most likely I can't get out of town for another month or so. Doubles partner out there?

    I have to give recognition to some good eats in the area. Friday night I went to the Beehive downtown. I met the owners who were brothers who originally opened the place in Albany but then started a location in Abilene and it was great. Saturday after playing 10 sets of tennis I went to the Sczehuan (sp?) Inn and it was also very good. I think I consumed about 10 lbs of rice and chicken and beef and sent away the to-go boxes since that was my only real meal of the day other than protein shakes and clif bars. After being sent home by Gerardo on Sunday morning I headed home and hit my favorite BBQ joint in Eastland. Hardin's BBQ, check it out if you head out that way anytime, they have some great food.

    Good to meet some of the FW guys and our own Dallas guys as well who played well this weekend. I never got to see Zaheem play but obviously he did well and almost knocked off the boy wonder Whitten who upset all the big seeds in the tourney.

    As far as my play I left mild mannered Cary Bazan in the first round and brought out Lucky Thunder to get me through Sat/Sun and I have to say he played pretty well. I had high hopes of doing well in consolation but having to play two seeds in consolation was just a little too much for me to overcome and make it to the final.

    Big ups to Super Food and Vitamin Water-Energy, without that stuff I probably would have just defaulted doubles against Chris and Scott.

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  79. Also I think I got one right with Leach, he won doubles. Nice playing by Griggs who I watch beat Studey in the semis. He has a great steady game and is so precise I can see how he won the whole thing.

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  80. Leach/Morton lost in the finals to Poole/Muniz. It was reported wrong on tennis link. Sorry Cary.

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  81. Poole and Munoz beat us in the third. Good match.

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  82. The bigger news is that Paulie T made the Qtrs!

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  83. qtrs? really? by beating who???

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  84. 4.0 singles were dominated by a self-rated 20-yr-old college player from Harding Simmons Univ. WTF! Abilene repeats itself... Last year it was Weber, now it was Whitten. What's wrong with these people?

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  85. Paulie T.: congrats on beating Bill Sanders. Nice win. You being seeded was not so ridiculous after all.

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  86. Whitten does not have a NTRP rating. You do not have to self-rate to play tournaments. As far dominating, he did have two three set matches. The poster's point is right on though. A solid college player, even one at a small school, should probably be playing the Open division or 4.5.

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  87. Unless Hardin-Simmons has gotten significantly worse, there's no way a player in their top 6 could lose two sets in 4.0. Their players are closer to 5.0. They were consistently the best team in the conference a few years ago.

    Cary, you should have gone to Joe Allen's in Abilene!!!

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  88. 10:39 AM, you might want to tap the breaks there a little bit... Paulie T. made the quaters because the draw was very small and he won only 1 match... The guy he beat was not very good and he lost his first match in consolation draw so I think this all proves that the seeing was not legit!

    But please Paulie tell us all about your travel exprience, please!

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  89. He may not be very good by your standards, but he has a benchmark rating of 4.5. So unless you personally saw the match, I think you owe Paulie T. an apology plus give him his props for a job well done.

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  90. Whiten's game/skill looked like that of a strong 4.5 or weak 5.0... He is careless when he plays but certainly has the game. CoreDawg, you would not win a set from him with your pussy game. 4.0 guys (Zaeem and Oleg) who took sets from him are also pussy holes and sandbaggers who are not 4.0s and should be playing at 4.5 now.

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  91. Enough of the Abilene bs. Lets talk Brookhaven doubles tourny. Did I see it correctly and Bender actually tried in a couple of matches and won the 3.5 level? Say it aint so anons!

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  92. So if I follow your logic, Coredawg can't beat Oleg and this Z. Butt guy, since they got sets off the college sandbagger.

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  93. Bender has a low 4.0 game in a 3.0 body. He is very steady from the baseline, and has nice touch. Since its 3.5 doubles, he gets away with staying back at the baseline. If he plays with the same partner at the Tri-level sectionals, they will be tough to beat.

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  94. Thanks 2:50, that makes a lot of sense. A low 5.0 loses sets to 4.0 rated players, but would kill me. OK.

    As for the Benchmark conversation, anybody who plays in playoffs is a benchmark. If you get moved up, you stay benchmark. It is not a representation of your level, just how good your team was. So Paulie being listed as benchmark is meaningless. Technically, he can't be a benchmark 4.5 anyway since he's never played 4.5 team tennis (I think). I am not making a comment on Paul's game, just how the benchmark concept is commonly misunderstood.

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  95. Coredawg: The benchmark 4.5 player is not Paulie T., but his opponent Bill Sanders. The poster was not completely clear on that point.

    Apparently, this college sandbagger has a 4.5/weak 5.0 game in warm-up, but once the match starts he sloppily plays down to the 4.0 opponent's level. Not sure how that type of player is going to beat a legit 4.5 player on a regular basis.

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  96. For a guy who he is probably eligible for Social Security checks and whose first serve is slower than the speed limit in a school zone, Bender sure gets a lotta ink on this blog as a player and captain. I like his style. Keep a low profile and chuckle at all the underachievers who are jealous of his success.

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  97. College kids are use to a certain pace of shot, usually consistent deep balls coming back. It takes some time for them to adjust or "play down" to a slower pace, moon balls, etc. I've seen it happen many times. Sometimes they just adjust & blow their lesser opponent away, other people let it frustrate them and lose.

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  98. I just looked up Hardin-Simmons and I don't see Whitten on the roster. Sounds like unsubstantiated rumors to me, typical for this blog.

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  99. OK, I found him. He has played two matches in 2008 (0-2 record) and hasn't played since. Leads me to believe he wasn't good enough to make the team regularly. You guys always try to make these players seem like superstars because they played college tennis.

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  100. I've seen Bender play many times. He is a high 3.0 or low 3.5 player. But the guy he plays doubles with _ Steve Nguyen is a high 4.0+ player. Nguyen consistently hits rocket forehands with heavy topspin and covers 3/4 of the court. While Bender covers one alley, lobs from the baseline, and frequently checks his pacemaker.

    But watch out. Bender may show up with Nadal as his partner and win level 4.0 at the next tournament.

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  101. http://www.usta.com/?sc_itemid={0FE36FD8-7BCC-4153-92CD-DC687F61A6C5}

    click on the general and experienced player guidelines and you will see that anyone under 35 who played at a shitty college has to rate/play 4.5 or above. Whitten lost 2 matches in college but they were both competitive.

    Not only did the director know Whitten played in college, Whitten works for him at the Rose Park Tennis Center.

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  102. I thought 4.0 was the minimum for D3.

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  103. Coredawg,

    My friends did offer up Joe Allen's, I will have to try it next year. Corey you have would taken Whitten. He was very good but as noted Zaheem and Oleg gave him a run.

    I spoke with his boss and he called Austin for advice on the matter as well and asked if they could move him to Open but at that time the draws and seeds were in place and USTA/Texas advised that he would be fine in the 4.0 division based on his 2 match history, etc. He had a monster serve but rarely got a first serve in. The thing is he stuck out because the "new 4.0" is obviously different and if he had played last year at 4.0 he would have gotten bounced in the quarters by Eddie or any other of the top guys from last year.

    Bottom line is the kid most likely will never play at the level again so it really doesn't matter.

    Any thoughts on the BH tourney last weekend, how was it?

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  104. Cary, stay away from Joe Allen's. I'm from Abilene and its really gone down hill. Joe's exwife opened a BBQ place there, Sharon Allen's and it is realy good. Perrini's is another great place to eat just outside of Abilene.

    As for Hardin Simmons, most of the players who are on that team are from either Abilene High or Cooper or some of the other small towns around Abilene. I would say most of them would be 4.5 at best, probably at a 4.0 level. If they were any better than that, they would be playing at ACU or another school.

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  105. How could Kirk/Shields lose to Bender?

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  106. Yes,
    That's right Cary !
    How dare you come on the website that YOU CREATED and state your opinion.

    Shame on you!!! lol

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  107. Cary, I'd love to play a major zone with you! Let me know asap please.
    Kim Anderson

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  108. Oh now that's a winning pair!

    Anderson who lost half of his 3.5 mathces and Cary.

    This is a new world.

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  109. Bender saw how good they were in the first set, so he decided to write them a check and the changeover to leave Brookhaven and play on his 3.5team this Spring. They then agreed to tank their match to start cammoflauging their record. Yoda, brilliant he is !

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  110. I can carry him! Gerber said I could beat Bazan in singles.
    Kim

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  111. I have my doubts that these twilight tourneys will have any success in the winter months, but they would obviously have more appeal later in the year when it gets hot.

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  112. Bender would never write them a check. He doesn't leave a paper trail

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  113. Yet another anon reason on why this blog has outgrown its usefulness. This blog is dead to me.

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  114. and that was in reference "Bazan, you know shit about..."

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  115. Coredawg: 1:37PM needs a pep talk from you to help get over his despondency over the death of the blog.

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  116. I just don’t think the Twilight tennis tournaments will be to successful since there being held at the Village. The issue with the Village is their lighting. The lighting at the Village sucks! I have been bitching to the folks at the Village for years about the lighting. For a start, they could clean out the lighting fixtures and then start replacing some bulbs. I have played in many tournaments over several years at the Village and after playing in a tournament there in October …..I said that’s it ….never again …until they improve the lighting situation. So far, nothing has been done. If you’re planning to play in the Twilight Tournament, request the Tournament Director to at least have the lighting fixtures cleaned out before the tournament.

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  117. It's my understanding that the lights will not be turned on at all. You play by moonlight, if there is any, in order to increase the degree of difficulty.

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  118. The Village does suck. I give you that. But it is not as bad as the GTC.

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  119. See Coredawg's previous post. He sez twilight events to be played at Fair Oaks, not Village.

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  120. I can never remember if I went to Joe Allen's or Sharon Allen's (maybe both). Whichever one I went to is good.

    Twilight tournaments will be at Fair Oaks. For those that haven't been lately we do have 4 courts with brand new lights and the other courts' lights are fine. The problem with the Village lights is that they are too low, but Brookhaven has almost identical lights.

    Cary, I would like to give you a recap of the Brookhaven but I didn't spend much time there. One thing that losing in the first round reminded me of was how these tournaments screw over the doubles players. I'm not one to play consolation sometimes anyway but, tournaments collect 4 times as much for doubles when you consider that twice as many people play on each court and no consolation.

    I will be directing two Fair Oaks tournaments this summer that will have consolation for every event; I would love to see other tournaments follow suit.

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  121. gerber is scared of morrison

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  122. Of course, for a great tournament with consolation and prize money you can sign up for the next tournament John and I are running in March. :)

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  123. What are the details on that tourney, Corey?

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  124. It was Morrison who backed out of the fight. I guess those golden gloves are really aluminum gloves.

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