When: Nov. 20-22, 2009
Where: Sites: Garland Tennis Center. Another nearby location will be chosen if necessary.
EVENTS: Singles, Doubles, Mixed Doubles
FORMAT: This is an old-school format. There are no divisions by level. Everybody signs up for singles, doubles, and/or mixed doubles in a maximum of two events. Seeding will be determined by Corey Noel, John Sisk, and an objective third party and will be based primarily on NTRP ratings, USTA results, and previous Noel/Sisk tournament results. Maximum draw size will be 32 players/teams for all draws. If there are more than 32 players/teams, the players will be divided into multiple draws (max size=16). Example: 45 players sign up= a draw of 22 and a draw of 23. Seeds will be placed using the wave method if multiple draws occur. There will be a consolation draw for each event.
NOTE: Many of you are already thinking, how can there be no levels? What makes our tournaments special and different is the handicapping system. We have used a handicap scoring system in our last tournaments, making virtually every match competitive, when it may or may not have been under normal scoring rules. The way it works is, players receive one handicap game at the start of each set per 0.5 difference in level, based on the players’ NTRP ratings, including the option to start serving or receiving. For example, if a 4.0 plays a 4.5, the 4.0 would begin each set with the option to serve or receive, and a 1-0 lead. Same applies in doubles. If two 4.0s play two 4.5s, the 4.0 team would begin each set with the option to serve or receive, and a 2-0 lead (8.0 v. 9.0). We had a lot of positive feedback for this format and we look forward to using it again. We will only accept players in the 3.0-5.0 range, and a maximum of 4 games will be given in any set. If players do not have a USTA rating, the tournament committee will assign one based on available information. We will use the current mid-season USTA ratings (sorry John :(.
SCORING: Regular Season—Two out of three sets, regular scoring, with a 3rd-set super-tiebreaker in lieu of a third set. Finals can be played under full two out of three set format if time allows.
ENTRY FEE: $28 per event or $48 for two events. Maximum two events. Preferred method of payment is electronic via PayPal. All players will be invoiced by PayPal on Monday, November 9 and payment is due by Saturday, November 14.
PRIZE MONEY : This is a prize money event. No trophies, no t-shirts; we’re playing for cash, and for fun of course.
PAYOUT: 1st place: 25% of all entry fees for that draw (12.5% per doubles team member).
2nd place: 15% of all entry fees for that draw (7.5% per doubles team member).
Consolation winner: 10% of all entry fees for that draw (5% per doubles team member).
Example: if 20 people sign up for singles only for a total prize pool of $500, winner would receive $125, 2nd place would receive $75, consolation winner would receive $50. Split those prizes in half to determine doubles prize money.
SCHEDULE of Play: Singles will begin at 6 p.m. Friday, 11 a.m. Saturday, and 9 a.m. Sunday. Doubles will be at 7:30 p.m. Friday, 3 p.m. Saturday, and noon Sunday. Mixed will begin Saturday at 6 p.m., and Sunday at 3 p.m. All times are dependent upon draw sizes.
SIGN-UP: Sign up by e-mailing noelcarter91199@yahoo.com. List the events you would like to sign up for and you will be invoiced accordingly through PayPal.
DEADLINE: Players must be paid by Saturday November 14.
Feel free to use this forum for feedback or questions.
Where does the rest of the money go???? Do I even need to ask?
ReplyDeleteIt goes to feed your family.
ReplyDeleteWhere does the money go in any tournament? John and I aren't running it for fun. We don't get balls and courts for free either. How much money did the winner of the last Brookhaven tournament get?
ReplyDeleteThat's a pretty standard formula for tournaments USTA style. Don't forget there are balls, court fees, and admin fees (which no one is going this much work for free). I don't think people should work for free.
ReplyDeleteHow is this "Handicap" system competitve?
ReplyDelete50% (+/- 15%) chance of winning/losing can be considered a competitive match IMO. How much chance does a 3.5er have against a 4.5er, starting each set at 2-0? I'd say less than 10%... and that is NOT competitive.
A 4.5 should beat a 3.5 6-3, 6-3 in this format, that's being generous.
ReplyDeleteI know i can hear it now, but fat boy and skinny kid won it last year. a 3.5 and a 4.5 playing together.
ReplyDeletego to garland? f that.
ReplyDeleteRemember - alot of Big J's 3.5 rated players are 4.5 stars in hiding. Giving any of them a 2 game lead per set and serve is deadly.
ReplyDeleteGo anywhere, for any tournament,or anything is insane. Can you imagine all the players that travel to San Antonio, Houston, Waco, Tyler- even Ft.Worth w/o a chance to win any money......pure insanity. Must be the free meals,and hotels that draws the hundreds of people.
ReplyDelete-Marty
A 4.0 beat a 5.0 in this tourney last year. Several 3.5 doubles teams beat 4.0s. I know the formula works. John and I did win the doubles, but 3 of our matches were 3 sets. Plus, he's 4.0 now so it will be tougher.
ReplyDeleteMy wife and I will win the Mixed!!! Either that or we may end up in divorce court. :-)
ReplyDeleteIt should be fun.
Eddie.
Cash money for the winners? There goes the "amature status"... you will no longer be eligible to play in any usta sanctioned tournaments!
ReplyDeleteDTA representative
Where are the 4.0, and 3.5 updates for last week? Come on Cary and Capt. Fantastic!!! If you want to run and write on a blog its fairly important to post a thread at least once a week!
ReplyDelete^^^
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely, after all Cary and Capt Fantastic get paid so well for this.
Admittedly, I like all the updates for all of the levels but I am sure they have other things to do than write for free.
It only ruins ur amateur status if u publish the results officially. This blog is unofficial. Plus no vegas line.
ReplyDeleteThat's my plan to weaken the USTA teams by paying prize money.
ReplyDeleteThat’s my plan to weaken the USTA …
ReplyDeleteWhat a douche bag!
Funny Corey.... (I guess you whipped up on the Anon above sometime in the past though and he's still bitter at you)
ReplyDeleteNot sure if Cary will do a write-up for 4.0 this week but here is the way I see it:
Flight A - not much going on. HP/Bazan are creeping back up the standings to where they belong and will pobably take down TBar who still need to get in their make-up match with the tough Stonebriar team. Assuming that Lakes and GHill manage to hold off Eldorado and LBH, Lakes & GHill will probably clinch play-off berths this w/end.
Flight B - nothing interesting happening here until the last week when JCC take on Fretz for the 2nd place. Highly unlikely that JCC lose their other 2 matches before then so it comes down to these 2 (Eldorado already has 2 losses and still needs to play Garland who will give them their 3rd loss)
Flight C - same song different tune.... The final week match-up between Canyon Creek & Village will decide who makes the play-offs with BHavenBP - who have a soft schedule remaining.
Flight D - Now this is where the action is! BhavenBB really needs to win against Garland because after their 0-5 drubbing last week to Somabut tie-breakers are not their friend. This match will be tough if both teams are able to field their top 8 players. Since that is unlikely I'm going to give the edge to BHaven as I think they have better depth at dubs but this is a toss-up. Don't be fooled by the Garland loss to Village, that was the week Newman and Kingsley were with Bob at Nationals, but does indicate their lack of depth.
MOW however has to be Somabut vs Oak Creek. I'm going to stop betting against Bob's "rebuilding" team and pick them to win this one. Somehow he has assembled a quality roster around Weymer, Kemp & Fenn. It will be interesting to see how they fare though when those 3 get bumped up at y/e.
Nice write up Rossouw. Well put together.
ReplyDeleteThat was a joke but obviously anon didn't get it.
ReplyDeleteHe's right! Corey is a douche bag!
ReplyDeleteAll - Don't be taken in by this scam.
ReplyDeleteThere is going to be a gay pride parade right after the tournament.
ReplyDelete"A 4.0 beat a 5.0 in this tourney last year."
ReplyDeleteNames please?
Must've been a really bad 5.0.
I don't really want to say. If you e-mail me, I will tell you. It was a shock to me as well but that's the beauty of the system. I played a 3.5 and nearly lost the first set. They start serving 2-0 and hold serve, you're down 3 games without even serving yet.
ReplyDeleteCorey - Don’t be an ass. Just publish the names. You don’t have to be so secretive about your past and current tournaments. This is one reason why people think your tournaments are a scam. What’s the big deal? Are you trying to avoid issues again with the IRS?
ReplyDeleteNobody thinks my tournaments are a scam. You're posting anonymously telling me to publish people's names. That's classic. That tournament had more than 50 people in it and if one of them wants to post the result, they can. Otherwise, forget it. Not that significant anyway. My only point was that 90 percent of matches are competitive in this format.
ReplyDeleteThen what’s the problem?
ReplyDeleteIt’s really becoming apparent with all the outstanding questions about the past and current tournaments that Corey is hiding something. I believe he’s hiding his crystal meth addiction.
ReplyDelete….. 90 percent of matches are competitive in this format.
ReplyDeleteCory must be a used car salesman.
weymer will dominate singles just cut the check now
ReplyDeleteis there bonus $ for weymer not losing a game
ReplyDeleteNow you have to be a High Point player because who else would know that he was playing?
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