So here are the 3.5 and 4.5 schedules along with odds for the 3.5 group. No need for odds at 4.5, Branch is even money with T Bar and Fair Oaks with a slight upset chance and LB Houston merely coming hoping their is free beer provided by the DTA (of course that is same reason I am coming out to watch)
4.5 Round Robin schedule
Saturday matches:
12p: T Bar v. LB Houston and Oak Creek v. Fair Oaks
Sunday matches:
10:30a: T Bar v. Oak Creek and LB Houston v. Fair Oaks
1:30p: Oak Creek v. LB Houston and T Bar v. Fair Oaks
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3.5 Schedule (Odds to win)
Blue flight:
Oak Creek (6 to 1)
Oak Ridge (45 to 1)
Garland (2 to 1)
Red flight:
High Point (3 to 1)
Greenhill (10 to 1)
Stonebridge (35 to 1)
Friday matches:
6p: Oakridge v. Oak Creek and Greenhill v. Stonebridge
Saturday matches:
9a: Garland v. Oak Creek and High Point v. Stonebridge
3p: Oakridge v. Garland and High Point v. Greenhill
Sunday 3.5 Final
12p Winner of Blue v. Winner of Red
Garland and High Point have to play two matches in one day,
ReplyDeleteMay have the potential for some upsets,
I think this would only effect the singles players since the temps should be very reasonable. Garland doesn't have much depth at singles but Oberto and Delira are young enough to play 2x in a day and play well.
ReplyDeleteSince these two teams are not playing on Friday evening, you think they may be interested in an all night poker match? I used to do that on Friday nights when I was young.
ReplyDeletesorry not much posting by me, they gave some fancy new title at work and they are actually making me work. I will list some thoughts later on. But feel free to talk amongst yourselves.
ReplyDeletePoint being ...
ReplyDeleteFor Example Greenhill plays Friday nightm
Goes home gives the Wifey a little "How's Your Father"
Goes to bed, wakes up, Maybe has Breakfast at ihop, goes home, gets a massage, heads up to Brookhaven,
Mean while Trae and crusty old Highpoint have to wake up at the crack of dawn, play a long grueling match, then hang out for 3 hours in their sweaty clothes, or rush home and rush back, to play a well rested team,
Advantage Greenhill
Any predictions on the Friday night matchups?
ReplyDeleteI like Greenhill and Oak Creek to be opening night winners. If High Point plays well they should ease out of their flight the other flight should be a battle between Garland and Oak Creek which happens early Sat morning. I think Oak Ridge is good enough to cause a scare but just don't see them taking singles matches off these two powerhouses.
ReplyDeleteI know I am partial to High Point but I do feel they are right on par with Garland at the top. Yes High Point beat OC with a DQ but even w/o that it came down to Marc K winning a very tight tiebreaker otherwise the DQ would have been irrelevant. The loss to Westlake was a bit of a late season let up and some last minute lineup changes were hard to overcome against a Westlake team that finished at 6-2 in a three way tie with GE and OC for the 2nd playoff spot so you are telling me that isn't a quality loss. PUHLEESE! I am not saying they are dominant but I don't think they have weaknesses that you can just push them down to #3 on the list so easily.
ReplyDeleteBased on what you are saying that HP is the heavy favorite in their flight, then you are very safe ranking them 2 since 1 and 2 can not come from the same flight.
ReplyDeleteOr can 1 and 2 come from the same flight....say Garland is the winner of the Blue flight by winning 3-2 over both opponents and HP wins it's flight 5-0 over both opponents in their flight. In the finals Garland beat HP 4-1....so where would HP end in the final standing?
Do they get 2nd for winning their flight and playing in the championship match or does the match scores against common opponents come into play?
Guess another way you could rate the teams in the playoff would be to assign odds on each team chances to become the 3.5 champion. This would give us a better perspective of what you feel is the real chance a team may have to win the championship and maybe show two team you feel are somewhat equal.
You could then post a survey with the teams/odds and allow everyone to pick their favorite. Based on what I have read so far that there are only a couple heavy favorites, it would be interesting to see how many "homers" we have out there reading the blog that would not pick one of them to win the championship. Should make for some fun discussions.
i like your idea, I will work on that day, I also had a 4.0 preview already written and know that T bar is out I will put that up with odds and I like the little poll thing I just couldn't think of a good one to put up. Thanks for the suggestions.
ReplyDeleteWe beat Westlake 5-0
ReplyDeleteSo PUHLEESE! Take that!
There is definitely no 2nd place in the fall only at Spring playoffs does 2nd place matter because that team goes to sectionals but only 1st matters in the Fall playoffs so really who cares about the silver medal.
ReplyDeletetouche OC BL
ReplyDeleteI guess we will find out on Dec 2,
ReplyDeleteIf your not upset by Old Crusty Greenhill.
Rumor is that T Bar will have their top two singles players playing for their 5.0 team in the playoffs, this would put their 4.5 team at a huge disadvantage since singles was their biggest strength.
ReplyDeleteThat means OC Branch is more than even money to win this tourney now. It is up to Fair Oaks to try and be the team to upset them.
ReplyDeleteI guess you are assuming or guaranteeing OC will be there on Sunday and not at home watching football.
ReplyDeleteI'm confused by the odds on Greenhill (10:1). Isn't this the same team that didn't win a match at the Spring QT (take a look). Has their roster changed significantly since then that you would now rate them that strongly?
ReplyDeleteSomeone mentioned that they think the blue division is stronger than the red division. I don’t know the other teams, but I find that hard to believe.
ReplyDeleteGreenhill should have been undefeated and I am not sure if they will win a match in the red division. I think Stonebridge is a sleeper. They didn’t seem to field there strongest team when they lost to Garland (Trey Swain & Jim Bostick did not play). I don’t know if Garland held anything back that week, because it really was a positional match because both teams were in the playoffs already. I played against Stonebridge in the Spring and they were strong then and they may have added another doubles player or 2. This is just an opinion and everyone will find out the real story in a few weeks.
Someone mentioned that they think the blue division is stronger than the red division. I don’t know the other teams, but I find that hard to believe.
ReplyDeleteGreenhill should have been undefeated and I am not sure if they will win a match in the red division. I think Stonebridge is a sleeper. They didn’t seem to field there strongest team when they lost to Garland (Trey Swain & Jim Bostick did not play). I don’t know if Garland held anything back that week, because it really was a positional match because both teams were in the playoffs already. I played against Stonebridge in the Spring and they were strong then and they may have added another doubles player or 2. This is just an opinion and everyone will find out the real story in a few weeks.
I put GH ahead of SBRDGE because SB didn't add anything to their roster other than experience. GH did add a few players Newman and Davalos and Jason Fraser didn't play in the QT last year. My 10 to 1 odds on them are based on the fact I think Sims or Fraser could gain a split against SB or HP and then have a shot at doubles. To me I think the doubles teams are stronger than SB from top to bottom. I am mainly going off personal experience. I have played Bostick and Swain seperately in doubles. I have to preface this by saying they are both super nice guys but are telling me they are a slam dunk win at doubles, I don't think so. Bostick has a big serve but guys in the playoffs are not affected by that like reg. season players might be. I don't remember anything about Swain that stood out to me. I have played Leopard and Ridgley as well as Newman and they are all very tough players, Newman beat me in a very tough match and I squeaked by David and Herb and I was playing with my regular partner. Herb and David aren't even their line 1 team so that says a lot.
ReplyDeleteAs far as the blue v. red flight. I have to give it to the Blue side with Garland only losing 1 guy off their sectional team and OC doing well in the playoffs 2 years in a row, won Fall 07 and finished 3rd in the Spring. They did lose some players but added four good ones and one other who happened to get DQ'ed. And even though I have ragged on Oak Ridge I think they are a good team just lack a few mega strong players that make getting out of this flight next to impossible. The red flight has a very good HP team but GH and SB for reasons I mentioned before have weaknesses mainly at singles.
ReplyDeleteI think we (STONEBRIDGE) match up well with Greenhill.
ReplyDeleteThe difference in your odds seems too big since we beat them in the Spring QT - even if they added some players.
You may want to base your opinion on more recent results - 2007.
I agree High Point is the team to beat in our flight and Garland is the team to beat in the other flight.
Now I have to go watch you all play on Friday. I'll be honest if I had to lay money on your match I wouldn't feel comfortable either way. My odds are based more on your ability to score an upset over HP than the GH v. SB match up If someone other than HP makes it out of this flight I think it would be with the winning team possibly having a loss.
ReplyDeleteAnd Rueben me underestimating you is a good thing if I had this blog last Spring I would have had Garland as a 30 to 1 in the playoffs, things aren't always what they seem on paper. I structured our lineups to take a break on Lifetime and Garland, we squeaked by Lifetime and got beat by Garland so that kind of shows you there really isn't that much separating teams. I think more than any previous playoffs I can remember there isn't any big ringers at 3.5 even Oberto is beatable.
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