tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post2231911223200638111..comments2023-12-19T05:46:52.397-06:00Comments on USTA Dallas League Tennis Blog: 4.0 Champion Division - FallUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger121125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-89123105293792649102009-06-12T17:33:27.205-05:002009-06-12T17:33:27.205-05:00Thank you, Anononymous 3:00 PM, for your continued...Thank you, Anononymous 3:00 PM, for your continued posts. We heard you the first time you said so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-46847065678304155052009-06-12T17:00:43.730-05:002009-06-12T17:00:43.730-05:00We do need a 4.0 Priemier league. All the top pla...We do need a 4.0 Priemier league. All the top players would really benefit from this type of competition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-63914224543410478802009-06-11T23:00:54.036-05:002009-06-11T23:00:54.036-05:00I can't agree. We saw what happened to the Si...I can't agree. We saw what happened to the Sisk team that moved from 3.5 to 4.0. Of course, the problem there was they had 4 players that carried that team. <br /><br />Defeo <br />Flora <br />Courtney<br />Oh Shit! - Delira<br /><br />The rest of the team is getting slaughtered at 4.0 (including Rock Jock)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-3178907692375801952009-06-11T13:06:32.182-05:002009-06-11T13:06:32.182-05:00Why not just have the four teams making the DCC fo...Why not just have the four teams making the DCC form the fall elite league and play each other twice? All other teams clearly would provide much too easy competition and would be a complete waste of everyone's time ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-61497164347480027952009-06-11T11:28:19.713-05:002009-06-11T11:28:19.713-05:00You are correct. The best team from a lower divisi...You are correct. The best team from a lower division could beat at least half the teams from the division above, and probably get crushed by the other half.Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-59279535670661396872009-06-11T11:05:31.336-05:002009-06-11T11:05:31.336-05:00INTERESTING QUESTION: HOW MUCH OVERLAP IS THERE B...INTERESTING QUESTION: HOW MUCH OVERLAP IS THERE BETWEEN NTRP LEVELS.<br /><br />I may be wrong but I think . . . our best 3.0 team could beat almost all non-playoff 3.5 teams. Our best 3.5 team (Sisk) could beat almost all nonplayoff 4.0 teams. The best 4.0 team (Somabut) could beat most nonplayoff 4.5 teams.<br /><br />Maybe we need a new blog challenge. Somabut's 4.0 team vs a good but nonplayoff 4.5 team. It would be interesting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-7191222596129190382009-06-11T10:43:16.603-05:002009-06-11T10:43:16.603-05:00I think Sisk's 3.5 team would go .500 in any 4...I think Sisk's 3.5 team would go .500 in any 4.0 division.Keithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-47843436048189490832009-06-11T08:29:46.551-05:002009-06-11T08:29:46.551-05:00If you take the very best 4.0 players and formed a...If you take the very best 4.0 players and formed a team then that team might be able to finish at 500. What I said was no current 4.0 team that I see would win more than 2 matches at 4.5. <br /><br />The guys you listed are the exception, not the rule. Gene Davis was always a 4.5 guy - him at 4.0 was a joke. Kern is right there with him. Keller lost several matches in the fall at line 2 singles.<br /><br />Use Ken Ratana's team as they fit the rule. He has several players that dominated last year at 4.0. Forrest, Fernando and Ken<br /><br />Contreras - 5-0 Line 1 Singles in Fall<br />Forrest - 5-1 Line 1 Singles in the Fall<br />Ratana - 5-0 Line 1 singles in the Fall<br /><br />These guys are getting abused at 4.5. You are taking this too personal. Just go look at Sisk 3.5 team which will probably win DCC and possibly sectionals. Do you really think that team would beat half the 4.0 teams they would play?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-41602118910018268422009-06-11T05:46:45.920-05:002009-06-11T05:46:45.920-05:00my game is already plenty good for 4.0. i like th...my game is already plenty good for 4.0. i like the idea of having a good match every week rather than playing mostly weaker players. the new league will be great! whiners can stay on the sideline.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-30778128386188727892009-06-11T04:47:18.221-05:002009-06-11T04:47:18.221-05:00Guys - Don't waste your time. Spend the time w...Guys - Don't waste your time. Spend the time working on your game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-82822680805729768012009-06-10T22:28:58.284-05:002009-06-10T22:28:58.284-05:00Having a bunch of 4.0 players play 4.5 is not the ...Having a bunch of 4.0 players play 4.5 is not the answer to our problems. That would just make for weaker matches at the 4.5 level.<br /><br />The idea of a premier 4.0 league is a really good one and I hope we can get it going.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-50990453620444727102009-06-10T22:27:03.484-05:002009-06-10T22:27:03.484-05:00rockettman,
u r the best!rockettman,<br />u r the best!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-46314521775538630442009-06-10T22:01:23.406-05:002009-06-10T22:01:23.406-05:00anon 3:28
Most 4.5 teams don't have 2 great s...anon 3:28<br /><br />Most 4.5 teams don't have 2 great singles players. They usually have just 1, and yes there are exceptions. Look at all the guys who get bumped up each year, and continue to win at 4.5. Gene Davis, Jason Kern, Jean Nguyen, Hai Nhuyen, Dan Rasor and Dan Keller are examples of this. Some 4.0 teams will have a couple of players of this caliber on the their team. So don't tell me a 4.0 team cannot finish above .500 in a 4.5 league.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-29784111156119281542009-06-10T21:43:58.725-05:002009-06-10T21:43:58.725-05:00rockettman is on the job.rockettman is on the job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-40317595832239293022009-06-10T21:15:21.294-05:002009-06-10T21:15:21.294-05:00ROCKETTMAN,
CAN YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO THE CAPTAINS ...ROCKETTMAN,<br />CAN YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO THE CAPTAINS SOMEONE LISTED ABOVE? LETS SEE IF WE GET 6 OR MORE INTERESTED CAPTAINS.<br /><br />IF WE GET SIX STRONG CAPTAINS WE'LL GET THE PLAYERS AND THIS WILL ALL COME TOGETHER. WITHOUT THE CAPTAINS WE ARE JUST BLOWING SMOKE.<br /><br />HELP US GET TO THE NEXT STEP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-40756530611841257072009-06-10T21:10:25.693-05:002009-06-10T21:10:25.693-05:00You're right. We are beginners to the Dallas ...You're right. We are beginners to the Dallas league scene. <br />BTW, I think this elite Dallas league is a great idea, but I think it will be very difficult to start. Unless it is done in addition to the existing fall league, it won't happen. As much as people like to say the fall is meaningless, everybody wants that shot at a free spot in the DCC.CoreDawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05583438662444145116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-58376481208142526142009-06-10T21:09:55.388-05:002009-06-10T21:09:55.388-05:00anon 6:58 pm
I would say CoreDawg and Cary know mo...anon 6:58 pm<br />I would say CoreDawg and Cary know more about 4.0 and 4.5 than most. You want to see clueless - look in the mirror.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-32026655080177830682009-06-10T20:58:13.666-05:002009-06-10T20:58:13.666-05:00CoreDawg/Cary, I appreciate your thoughts and comm...CoreDawg/Cary, I appreciate your thoughts and commentary but both you guys are clueless about Dallas 4.0 or 4.5 league tennis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-14924675988309726122009-06-10T20:44:10.493-05:002009-06-10T20:44:10.493-05:00as long as we're only talking about the fall l...as long as we're only talking about the fall league i agree that an elite 4.0 league would be a big plus.<br /><br />with the new league, scores would not be enterred into tennislink and there would be nothing to win or lose. just good competition. no reason for teams to stack their line-up and no need for players to tank or manage their ratings. the best would play the best and we all have a hell of a good time. admin would not be difficult.<br /><br />players remiaing with the dta would still have good competition and perhaps an easier time winning a spot in the dcc.<br /><br />we have to give this a try.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-36842870078314590122009-06-10T20:35:22.622-05:002009-06-10T20:35:22.622-05:00CoreDawg is absolutely right about that.
The prob...CoreDawg is absolutely right about that.<br /><br />The problem is that the DTA has to accept anyone who wants to play. Even 3.0 players can sign up and play for a 4.0 team. Even if 50% of the roster is actually 4.0 players YOU may match up against a 3.0 or very weak 3.5. <br /><br />Everyone is very busy and when they block out a little time for tennis over the weekend they expect a good match. Sometimes players have to travel a good distance and then they play a very weak, noncompetitive player. Or perhaps a guy that is tanking to "manage" his rating. That is a waste of everyone's time.<br /><br />A premier 4.0 league makes a lot of sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-68011876013587550742009-06-10T20:29:58.728-05:002009-06-10T20:29:58.728-05:00These comments about the top 4.0 teams beating the...These comments about the top 4.0 teams beating the middle level 4.5 teams are just comical. The only team who could compete with 4.5 teams would be Somabut. All you have to do is look at the record of 4.0 players playing 4.5 to prove this. If there is a 4.0 player with a winning record at 4.5, this is for three reasons: A) They are not 4.0 players (i.e. Steven and Keith), B) They are always at the bottom of their team's lineup so they are playing against other low 4.5s or high 4.0s, and C) 4.0 players will be on weak 4.5 teams that opponents will give no respect and play their worst players against them to get them match time. <br />Bazan's and Stonebridge's 4.5 teams are full of high 4.0s or 4.0 bumpups and they are the two worst teams in their flight based on record. How can you dispute this?<br /><br />If you list the top 3 or 4 players on every 4.5 team, I would venture to say there are almost no 4.0 players who could beat any of them. This would mean that, in a match, a 4.5 team would automatically be up 2-0 or 3-0. Without stacking, a 4.0 team has no chance.CoreDawghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05583438662444145116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-71642907064914196832009-06-10T17:28:27.054-05:002009-06-10T17:28:27.054-05:00anon 3:14
You are correct. The problem is those 4...anon 3:14<br /><br />You are correct. The problem is those 4.5 guys you see typically in practice only. When it comes to a live match they are not playing in the starting lineup.<br /><br />The real issue is the best 4.5 guys are playing the singles lines and so the 4.0 team is going to lose both those lines which means they now have to sweep doubles. That just isn't going to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-15660791677098870442009-06-10T17:26:33.547-05:002009-06-10T17:26:33.547-05:00Guys,
League admin would not be difficult or time-...Guys,<br />League admin would not be difficult or time-consuming.<br />1. We get 6 captains on board<br />2. 1 or 2 captains get together and prepare a schedule<br />3. Captains fill their rosters, get courts, balls, and play matches just like they already do<br />4. Scores are sent in by email and posted on the blogsite<br />5. We use existing USTA rules excpet where captains vote to change. (Perhaps we vote to play a full 3 sets.)<br />6. Any big issues are resolved by vote of captains. But the whole idea is to play good matches and have fun. I don't expect a ton of issues.<br /><br />Dallas is large enough to support 2 leagues. I'm sure the DTA Fall league will continue to do fine.<br /><br />Result is great matches among our top 4.0 players and teams.<br /><br />LETS DO IT!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-33687256991019703832009-06-10T17:17:50.881-05:002009-06-10T17:17:50.881-05:00Just like USTA, there will be teams scrambling to ...Just like USTA, there will be teams scrambling to get players and you will have better teams and worse teams.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6372029287243637381.post-71911971990156692502009-06-10T17:17:00.040-05:002009-06-10T17:17:00.040-05:00I see this happening.
1. 6 to 8 captains form an ...I see this happening.<br /><br />1. 6 to 8 captains form an exclusive league.<br />2. One or more captains start grabbing top players from other teams to play in their league on Sunday since their normal team isnt invited to play that day<br />3. Captain starts recruiting player to play for their real USTA team come spring<br />4. Strong teams get stronger - weak team get weaker.<br /><br />IT'S A BAD IDEAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com